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JFAnon's avatar

First...again.

This shit is rigged.

How can I possibly be first again?

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Sapioplex's avatar

Because I told you I released it the same second I released it.

Pffffft.

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SSP's avatar

Odd. I was told no release.

Very odd, indeed.

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JFAnon's avatar

Both are fair points.

Let me preface by stating I don't believe that there is or would ever be any direct irrefutable proof for our theory. Plausible deniability seems like it would be very high on a Zoid list of priorities.

Our theory is built around inherently squishy macropatterns and circumstantial happenings.

My overview on those two points is that we could have elaborated more deeply.

Eggheads prevailed because they were not fatally obsessed with the lamentations of their enemies and getting more girls. On the contrary, they had a multi-generational awareness and were apparently able to understand that though their generation may not be alive to reap the reward of their efforts, such reward would eventually be realized be their descendants.

If you've read our Pershivelt Theory, it's the same principle but in a much more modern and relatable sense. That article is in our Substack somewhere...

The 'after some wrangling' is also more of a writer's shortcut than an attempt to skate by. We believe the non-Kongs would have necessarily been 'retired' or aged/edged out over time as the egghead/good people took over the top positions in known nodes of power.

Thank you for your incredibly thoughtful comments and for your very incisive questions.

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Sam Shalhoub's avatar

Lots of food for thought here. Well thought out and well presented. Thank you for taking the time to lay it out for us!

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JFAnon's avatar

Thanks, Sam!

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Tam's avatar

Y’all are funny as 💩. Love it! Interesting read as always. Looking forward to the future and how all this plays out. 👍🏼🤞🏼🙏🏼😎

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JFAnon's avatar

Thanks, Tam!

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The Grumpy Old Man's avatar

This article made my brain melt a little because the simplest explanation to something, is usually far more likely to be closer to truth. This concept would make redundant a lot of the BS stories from history and much of the internet grifting based on them. Got my vote.

Oh and thanks for the tips given on what it takes to get the girls... if only I had realised this when I was younger... :)

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Sapioplex's avatar

LOL! Yes...a remarkable attribute about this explanation is that it requires onlt standard Human behavior to explain. No woo, no blind assertions, etc.

And girls are delicious, even if insane...

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Douglas A Corrigan's avatar

Maybe watching the movie "The Adjustment Bureau" will help some understand the Zoids. If a Kong gets loose at the level of the Zoids we could be f'd! I don't like the idea of being a slave my entire life, manipulated and herded like sheep by a group that thinks I can't handle the truth! The truth could lead to their lose of control and lets not forget that the Kong happened on their watch? Great thought invoking exercise from you two degenerates! The bird language still makes my eyes cross! "Keep on Keepin on!"

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JFAnon's avatar

I think the Zoids' goal is to allow for as much free will as possible with as little manipulation as possible.

And I resemble that remark about us!

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Douglas A Corrigan's avatar

You guys are the best! I hope some day to meet you two and have a conversation and maybe a beer?

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JFAnon's avatar

A conversation AND a beer?

You got it, Douglas!

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Douglas A Corrigan's avatar

I'm way out on the panhandle of Florida if you are down this way hunting of fishing let me know. Paul's in south Florida I think about 6 plus hour drive. I'd make the trip to have a chat with ya'll!

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Sapioplex's avatar

I'm just east of Tampa, so maybe 5 hours from you.

Not the end of the world, but I can see it from here.

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BurnedSpy34's avatar

I'm inverted! Bahahaha

Good article again here mister.

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Sapioplex's avatar

Hat tip to those who deserve tipped hats!

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Suzanne's avatar

Kongs are children---Zoids are adults

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Sapioplex's avatar

Indeed!

The news is like Santa Claus...

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Suzanne's avatar

Kind of funny timing for me. . . I saw you and JFAnon with Joe and Scott recently and you spoke of the Kong/Khan. I have access to a Library video set-up. They present history called The Great Courses, individual academics doing stand-up lectures on their take of what happened. I just finished a series by Craig Benjamin on the Mongol Empire. -just hideous-. I knew more so what you were explaining because of that recent study. I am glad you are around and putting forth your ideas.

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Sapioplex's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. Yeah, putting this all together has been very strange. So much information you find conflicts with all of the other information. There is no way out other than to consume as much information as you can and try to make actual sense out of it. I think that's the whole point of this exercise...

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Mining for Salt's avatar

So what you're saying is... I can beat the shit out of everyone else. To get more girls?

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JFAnon's avatar

10/10 would not advise!

;)

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Mining for Salt's avatar

Just checked with the wife. Not happening.

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Sapioplex's avatar

Yes, but you'll be very unlucky. Avoid that and you'll be lucky.

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Tam's avatar

Came back to reread this after watching your show with Joe Rambo. As I commented before, I truly love the thought and humor y'all put into your work. I keep thinking (dangerous😳) about how myself and probably many others have come full circle from our original rabbit holes in the cartoon narrative. If those "holes" had not seemed so dark and real, would we have paid attention? I think that was the point. The Momma Bears came out in full force with the child trafficking #'s, as planned I bet. I've heard the women "diggers" outnumbered the guys for this reason. But as you have pointed out, there were too many nonsensicals. With open eyes and an open mind you can see there's more. And I don't think I could've reached this point of understanding without the round trip. So I don't regret the late nights and hours I spent going through it to get "here". It is difficult knowing what I think I know......since we don't truly know ...yet. So many still haven't grasped the cartoon narrative yet, I tend to stay in my own head a lot 😱 One of many reasons I'm so grateful for what you and others are doing. And because I'm no longer worried about what is coming, I just focus on watching to see when " movie" ends. And helping my friends and patients who are trying to get a grasp on it. I do wonder if THEY will ever let us know

the truth of our true origins - history.

What do y'all think?

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JFAnon's avatar

One can only control those things within their grasp.

Compared to the desire to control, the answer is frightfully less.

Focus on those things that can be controlled. Your family, your friends, your daily actions...beyond those things is beyond your control.

You only have so much energy...and less is more when it come to things beyond your control.

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Tam's avatar

Deep thoughts, and true. Namaste’ 😌😉 Thanks.

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Sapioplex's avatar

Yes, they turned the world to (what appears to be) shit, then dropped Q as a detonator and the whole information space is designed so the Enders figure it out first and then the rest of the population follows -- just as herds evolve. It is perhaps the gentlest way to tear the whole old system down and have the phoenix rebuild from the ashes.

It'll be interesting to see what evolves. I suspect it will be something like Starfleet with amazing levels of personal freedom and bounty.

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Tam's avatar

Ready to be beamed up, Scotty. 😉😎

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LiZi's avatar

Right and left sides of my brain read this and did a happy dance.

Thank you, John and Paul, I ágape you both 💛🙏🏼💛

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JFAnon's avatar

Thanks, Lizi!

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Burnt Eliot's avatar

Could we be overlooking something about bird language?

When I was in the 3rd grade, several of us a noticed that many of the words we were being taught had multiple meanings when spoken. We made use of that in order to create some hilarity. Naturally, our powers were limited by the number of words we were knew and were allowed to use. We were firmly told to stop doing that.

Later in life I was still aware that words and sentences often had multiple meanings. I also learned that with any finite text (the I Ching comes to mind), many reasonable but mutually inconsistent interpretations are possible. This awareness paid off for me when I got a career in IT and noticed right away that even if a room full of people were all using the same language to agree about some big, expensive project, very few of them really understood what the others were talking about.

Let’s extend that a little. What if we never actually understand words the way other people understand them; what if we only assume we do? We are almost always wrong in some important ways, except that we don’t much care how wrong we might be because of context. Agreement comes not from shared meaning but from hearing harmonious sounds, the meaning of which is always private. It is the same for all signs, scribbles, gestures, etc. After all, we only hear sounds, not meanings, but we only think in meanings and other subtle gestures, and not in raw sounds or demonstative arm-waving. We cannot prove or demonstrate that any actual meaning can be shared; we can only find new ways to convince ourselves that we agree. Agree on what? Meaning or harmony?

Likely there be Zoids, and they have learned to game this reality, learned how to subtly introduce overtones and harmonics into the noise for fun and profit. I did it in the 3rd grade!

Extending further, what if there is some great underlying force, structure, or condition of the species, or even of life itself, that is gaming the noise. People (and probably all species) have excellent ability to make sense out of complexity and contradiction without necessarily getting anything right. With only a few clues they may hear Showroom Dummy and think it’s just Uncle Jill. They hear rumors of news and imagine they knew that would happen. With the right medication, a chorus of dissonant fire alarms may sound like music of the spheres—strangely, the fire alarms might actually be music of the spheres, just like everything else is!

OK, if the Zoids are gaming this, then it is likely we all are gaming it, too, just not so noticeably as the average Zoid, and not so deliberately, I presume. What if the great underlying force, etc. is a sort of widespread unconscious awareness of the fact that sound itself does not really convey meaning but just stimulates it? We like being stimulated, don’t we, sort of? Is it possible that the great underlying force is actually just the inherent structure of the harmonics and overtones at great scale? Invisible, but cultivated inside us just like mitochondria or intestinal flora? Maybe we are its mitochondria or intestinal flora.

So, “Who’s on top, Zoids who think they’re in control, or we who think we are not in control? Or are we all under the power of the mathematically-mechanistically-fixed-structure-of-all-possible- (even if high-order infinite) harmonics and overtones? Is this, at audible, sensible, and cellular levels, a rigged game being played out on automatic? Is sound itself alive or is it only the audible surface of something a lot bigger? Does sound not make instruments dance? Are the greatest Zoids not simply the greatest Muppets?

What a show it would be if we could all just calm down and see the whole world all at once, everything, for what it really is, … but, aren’t already seeing that, from the inside-out so to speak. Are we Purusha and Prakriti? Imagine what a pleasant surprise it might be if everything stopped dancing just for a moment so we could see its true nature!

Can anyone step up to the mike and by sheer chance or hard work whistle up a new direction with new motives and new goals. You know: like maybe, “Make Prakriti Great Again.” Like, say, instead of let’s all help the Zoids fly the foul coup, why don’t we instead try to make telepathy work—that would solve the crime problems, Zoid and Kong alike!

Quick, what is today’s most prominent overtone on telepathy? Where is Michael Persinger when we need him? Will someone please shine the extra-special super-secret signal-sign, for entertainment purposes only, of course.

B.E.

archive.org/details/BurntEliot

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Sapioplex's avatar

You asked "Is sound itself alive or is it only the audible surface of something a lot bigger? Does sound not make instruments dance? Are the greatest Zoids not simply the greatest Muppets?"

I subscribe to the view that reality is usually mundane and boring and contemplations like this don't actually make any sense unless you can articulate how they make sense. Just because one can imagine a scenario doesn't make it plausible or reasonable. To be clear, I see no evidence that the above possibilities are even remotely likely.

I don't believe the masses are controlling the direction of the species. I see most people as ignorant animals who are being herded inside of a carefully constructed Matrix of beliefs. This is a good thing because this enables civilization to exist without being destroyed by Kongs.

Feel free to dig into telepathy. I believe it will happen with devices like Neuralink and is already planned into the path the species will take.

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Burnt Eliot's avatar

Re.: "Is sound itself alive or is it only the audible surface of something a lot bigger? Does sound not make instruments dance? Are the greatest Zoids not simply the greatest Muppets?"

I was alluding to a possible theory. (Theory, as language plus model). With limited space, I was vague with the language. Models are often easier.

Consider the human body as a collection of cells of many kinds plus lots of structural and connective material. There are many different species of cells and related structures, including intestinal flora and mitochondria.

What is in control? Brain, heart, gut, reproductive, mitochondria? The thinking brain (mind) is a notorious liar, always telling us it is in control when it controls very little, or that it know what happened when it is wildly guessing. Also, exactly where in the body is the mind located? It is like asking, where in the cart is the cart-ness? (Cf. “The Questions of King Milinda”). Or, where in the world is the self to be found?

What are the control mechanisms? Electrical (nerves), chemical (hormones), electro-chemical (ionic charges migrating within and between cells)? If my system encounters a surprise, each of these mechanisms might respond. The fastest and most comprehensive would likely be electro-chemical that uses frequencies to convey complex information; frequencies like unique EMF patterns of vibrating atomic structures. In some events, the outward facing ions on the surface of most cells might all change in a matter of a few seconds, for example from Magnesium (digestion) to Zinc (defense) (I could be wrong about what ion does what, but it is the mechanism that is the point). The model for this electro-chemical mechanism is sometimes referred to as “cold plasma.”

The narcissistic, thinking mind mostly lags behind deliberate action and behind the cell-to-cell ion cascades. Frequency is key. Scale this up to the species in its planetary ecosystem, and there is at least sound, and we have dedicated receptors for it. We might also consider the possibility of EMF devices that transmit words, emotions, and impulses to action or inaction directly into us. But what controls the controllers? Note that it is possible that water becomes a superconducting antenna when lining the center of the DNA helix, causing the DNA to resonate with EMF.

You are completely justified in hypothesizing that a few are herding us into an apparent mind-matrix (Teilhard de Chardin’s unification of consciousness?); this is very interesting. You are right, that is, within your assumptions of human-controlled controls, assumptions that are well accepted in Western thought, or are at least OT Biblical (Taoism, e.g., disagrees). I was trying to expand the thinking: Who or what is driving this? Zoids-on-top, cattle on the bottom, something else altogether? My impression is that there is something else altogether that is pushing us in a particular direction that is not necessarily off-world, but more like reduce suffering and misery. Probably something not even identifiable as either “individual” or “collective” force. The model I prefer reads easiest as metaphor. (Strangely, it seems there way are too-many such metaphors available in the language!)

It is like striking gong that rings in infinitely many frequencies and dimensions, and then discerning intelligent design in the finite patterns that I hear; why do the intelligent designs all point mostly in the same direction? Is it only wishful thinking? So, is this illusion or reality? What way of thinking will reconcile these two seemingly incompatible possibilities?

B.E.

archive.org/details/BurntEliot

BTW: Michael Persinger used electronic headgear to help people familiarize themselves with natural telepathic and other, similar skills. These devices are still for sale from his research assistants. Once learned, the device was not needed. Ingo Swan helped him design experiments.

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Alan Tomazin's avatar

Just finished reading. 👀 You can not unsee this. How could it be any other way? Brilliant. It all makes sense. We are all human. But, there’s always that one Kong…and I still don’t like Hillary.🤣 I think all your substacks are awesome, but this one, is one fine piece of work. I got half way thru and had to chat with Paul about it, he catches me up, you guys are the best!

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Elisabeth's avatar

It makes sense to me! Thanks

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Sapioplex's avatar

Thanks, Elisabeth!

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Artist's avatar

It’s an amazing theory

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Sapioplex's avatar

Thanks. We hate it and love it at the same time.

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Conlen's avatar

So does that mean if I stop paying income tax I'm probably fine cause I'm not a kong and the zoids will see I'm a chill dude who just doesn't like income tax ? One must ponder all angles...

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Sapioplex's avatar

You do you. I wouldn't take tax advice from anyone, personally.

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Conlen's avatar

As with everything it's a thought and situation we all must think upon and make a decision based on those thoughts and research, simply throwing my thought into the atmosphere of discussion.

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Helen K's avatar

Yes it's certainly interesting BUT I feel it's an excuse to get us to accept your version and ignore/excuse the evil. Also why should we all be OK with being constantly surveilled? How will that NOT be abused in the future? I think you could well be batting for the other side....judgement reserved for now as a thinking, functioning adult.

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Sapioplex's avatar

We have stated clearly that we don't really care what people believe. We've also said repeatedly that nobody should trust us. Instead, they should do their own research.

You are wise to suspect there exists a nefarious intent as deception for gain is a common theme in the animal kingdom (not just Humans.) However, I suggest it should be fairly easy to see the benevolent intent of the whole thing and also the ease at which, under the Zoid system we suggest, they could prevent bad guys from getting to the top of the hierarchy. Maybe you don't believe that. And that's OK.

It doesn't bother me if you believe it or not. Also, please feel free to shout from the rooftops that you don't believe it. It might be amusing.

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Helen K's avatar

I'm not the type to shout from any rooftop, I have vertigo, but it would no doubt be amusing if I tried. I am fortunate to have the time to do my own research as you suggest, so I will probably chew on this fascinating concept for a few months and consider if I believe it or not, after all it must have taken you a long time to come to this conclusion. Debate and discussion has been dead for a long while so my thought processes are definitely dulled and deprived of air; I cannot just absorb this and move on; it adds more fuel to the fire and deserves proper consideration.

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Sapioplex's avatar

Thank you, Helen, for your admirable response.

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Helen K's avatar

I now have questions as a cogitating student.....or musings. Do you see Q as a zoid+ group? Anons like to believe they are special, that they have the intelligence or the intuition to 'be saved', that our skills will be valued in the future in order to steady the ship. I now think this may not be the case. Regarding 'covid' were we just canny or bloodyminded enough to avoid the trolley in the first place? All the rest is random as you say.

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Sapioplex's avatar

I think the Q drops are a part of the overall Zoid show, but a relatively small part. I also think everyone doing their part is special. If people decide to be upset because they don't get to say they were a bigger part of this than they expected, well, then that's just a matter of false expectations.

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